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Francesca Albanese has served as the UN special rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian Territories since May 2022; she was confirmed for another three years in April 2025. Albanese is the first woman to hold the office. (The Nation\u2019<\/em>s editorial board member Richard Falk held the same position between 2008 and 2014.)<\/p>\n

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As special rapporteur, Albanese has been a courageous figure battling numerous efforts to discredit and delegitimize her. In March 2024, she reported to the UN Human Rights Council that Israel\u2019s actions in Gaza amounted to genocide. And in June 2025, the UN published a report by Albanese stating that many corporate entities, including Microsoft, Amazon and Alphabet Inc., were enabling and profiting from the occupation of the Palestinian territories and the Gaza genocide. In response, the Trump administration imposed sanctions on Albanese, naming her a \u201cspecially designated national,\u201d forbidding all US persons and companies from doing business with her. Albanese called the sanctions \u201cobscene\u201d and said she was being punished for her \u201cpursuit of justice.\u201d Amnesty International called the move \u201ca disgraceful affront to international justice.\u201d<\/p>\n

We met with Albanese via Zoom in May on the very day that a US district judge blocked the sanctions against her, ruling that they violated Albanese\u2019s First Amendment rights. Our conversation was wide-ranging, defined by what Albanese has called her \u201cintolerance for injustice.\u201d It has been edited for space and clarity.<\/p>\n

John Nichols: <\/em><\/span> Early on, you did a couple of reports in which you very specifically sought to assert the word \u201cgenocide,\u201d essentially to say to people, \u201cLook, it is time to use this word [about what is happening in Gaza].\u201d You faced a tremendous amount of resistance initially. Now, there\u2019s been much broader acceptance, but I\u2019m interested in why you made that choice at that point.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> I think that many Europeans of my generation, at least Italians of my generation, have had as part of their bread and butter an education about \u2018never again.\u2019 We have been exposed to the memory of the Holocaust. And so there is something already planted there that something as horrible as what happened during the Holocaust starts unseen, starts because the crimes against a specific group are normalized. So this was in the background; I had colleagues at the beginning of October [2023], telling me, \u201cOh my God, this is genocide.\u2019 I had Israeli scholars saying, \u2018This is genocide,\u201d and I was totally reluctant. I didn\u2019t want to use that word. <\/p>\n

But then in the following weeks, I started studying. I started talking to academics and survivors. And I started documenting the facts and raising the risks for months [that] there could be [a genocide unfolding], because the language was genocidal. There were acts of killings, conditions calculated to destroy, endless cases of mental and physical suffering caused intentionally. And this is where I said, \u2018Look, this is what Israel has done over the first five months, killing 30,000 people, an average of 150 people per day.\u2019 Then it was statistics: 85 percent steadily were women and children. How it\u2019s possible that this is just a miscalculation of where to throw a missile? I understood: It was a genocide, and like other genocides, it was unseen. Denial of the genocide is part and parcel of the genocide itself.<\/p>\n

[International Court of Justice] member states have an obligation to act to prevent genocide the moment they have noticed [it]. So, in January 2024, the International Court of Justice recognized the plausible irreparable harm under the Genocide Convention to the Palestinians in Gaza. Member states had to stop all trading with Israel immediately, especially weapons. They continued.<\/p>\n

Katrina vanden Heuvel: <\/em><\/span> How far along is your work on the anatomy of genocide and complicity?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> I\u2019ve mapped out the complicity of 66 states which are in violation of their obligation to prevent and punish acts of genocide. Clearly the United States is the state that spends the most, both militarily and in terms of financial support, but also it\u2019s the headquarters of the biggest centers of wealth, the Big Tech, the military industry, the financial system. There is extractivism, and then weapons, and then banks and pension funds, and then the big tech\u2014people call it technofederalism, or I call it necrocapitalism.<\/p>\n

Palantir, for example, has developed technology based on the despair and the misery [inflicted] on the people of Gaza. And they say that. They claim it, say, \u201cLook, this data all [worked together] while people were agitating under the bombing.\u201d They have used [it] to be better prepared in times of emergency, so they concocted a program that they then sold to the NHS in the UK, as Yanis Varoufakis has reported. So this is why I say it\u2019s necrocapitalism: because profits come first in capitalism. I\u2019m not questioning this, but profit in terms of slaughtering children\u2014it\u2019s something extremely disturbing.<\/p>\n

John Nichols: <\/em><\/span> As a rapporteur, you have taken this struggle deeper, right? It is not merely to report on what governments are doing, or going after what the corporations are doing\u2014you\u2019re naming names in a way that does bring you scrutiny. Were you conscious that that was very likely to take this whole discussion to a new place?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> Absolutely. I knew, and I was scared, and I\u2019ve had a couple of discussions. There was a former senior US official who warned me, \u201cLook, they will go after you.\u201d I\u2019ve investigated a plethora of entities, including charities, sitting on neuralgic points of the system of displacement and replacement of the Palestinians, which is typical of settler colonialism. Today, there are businesses and corporations who amass a quantity of wealth that is absolutely able to annihilate the decision-making power of states, and this alters the democratic processes.<\/p>\n

[But even with the risk,] I didn\u2019t think for a second to get rid of my apartment in the US, because that apartment belongs to my daughter.<\/p>\n

Katrina vanden Heuvel: <\/em><\/span> How important has your truth-telling been in shaping the public debate and the media debate about Palestine and Israel?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> Someone recently told me: You speak about something that is highly technical in a way that is accessible. This has always been my ambition. Human rights are for the people\u2014not for academics to write expensive books about. Human rights are swords and shields, and this is what many people across the globe are seeing now. This is why I agreed with my family suing President Trump. People need to know that justice works. For me, it\u2019s not just about having my bank account back or my property back. It\u2019s about reinstating a principle that international justice is in the public interest.<\/p>\n

John Nichols: <\/em><\/span> Your voice has resonated quite strongly with young people in the US. It has been less resonant with power in the US\u2014with presidents and leaders of the Senate. I\u2019m wondering how you assess that.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> What has happened with the younger generation, particularly in the US\u2014I don\u2019t think that they\u2019ve listened to me. I\u2019ve listened to them. I\u2019ve learned from them. They are the ones who started calling out their universities for complicity with genocide. This has been an eye-opener.<\/p>\n

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[In terms of being listened to by the powerful,] maybe I\u2019ve been less listened to than Michael Lynk or Richard Falk, in the sense that they managed to sit with the power. They don\u2019t even sit with me, because it would be an embarrassment for them. It\u2019s better to infantilize me and call me a witch. This is what they do, and this is why I\u2019m saying that of all the things that Palestine has exposed, there is also this link between patriarchy and settler colonialism. I\u2019ve encountered a lot of mansplaining, and I\u2019ve enjoyed driving them mad.<\/p>\n

Katrina vanden Heuvel: <\/em><\/span> The UN, I\u2019ve always believed, is a flawed but indispensable organization\u2014but would you advise someone to apply or accept the role you have been occupying for the last years in terms of your overall experience?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> Of course, go for a ride\u2014but be ready for the consequences. You need to be able to speak truth to power. I was not this person three years ago. I\u2019ve changed because I\u2019ve seen the genocide and the denial of genocide and the complicity making businesses flourish at the expense of the victims of the genocide. I was reporting the testimonies of people who had their anuses broken by rape. What else do you need? When will Israel have done enough? And this is not Netanyahu. This is not just Ben-Gvir. Withdraw the occupation, withdraw the settlements, stop exploiting Palestinian resources, and abolish all forms of apartheid. Then this is the beginning for what comes next.<\/p>\n

John Nichols: <\/em><\/span> I\u2019ve been fascinated since the start of this by Ireland\u2019s response to what has happened in Gaza. And I\u2019ve wondered if you\u2019ve noted that, and if you think that some countries, because of their experience, recognize a genocide or recognize a threat that other countries may not.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Katrina vanden Heuvel: <\/em><\/span> Rashid Khalidi [has spoken] about Ireland in the context of oppression and resistance.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> Ninety-five [percent] of the Irish population has been thinking that this was a genocide since 2024. It\u2019s been very different from the rest of Europe, because they\u2019ve experienced colonization, British colonization before anyone else. There was a genocide, even if it\u2019s not acknowledged. Almost 1 million people were killed by the famine caused intentionally by the Brits. I also say, \u201cLook, we need to acknowledge that trauma generates trauma,\u201d because then, what happened to the Irish people who moved to the United States? They have been part of a colonial project. This is why I\u2019m saying we cannot judge Israel in 1948 and those who are really escaping brutal discrimination in Europe\u2014those who escaped that really had nowhere to go. We need to acknowledge what has been done, and what was right and unavoidable years ago is clearly not right, and surely it must be avoided today.<\/p>\n

John Nichols: <\/em><\/span> And yet you are accused of being an antisemite. You\u2019re accused of all sorts of terrible things when you\u2019re stating something as you just did: factually, and also in a relatively sensitive way.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> \u201cWhat doesn\u2019t kill you,\u201d we say in Italian, \u201cmakes you stronger,\u201d and I will be forever indebted to a very negative experience that I went through at the beginning of my mandate. I was supposed to travel to the occupied Palestinian territory. The Israeli government even gave me a sense that they would let me in. And then a few days before I go, there is this bombshell that [starts], \u201cOh, Francesca Albanese is an antisemite because she has said \u2018Jewish lobby\u2019 in 2014.\u201d Which is true; I said it. But they didn\u2019t say the context; they didn\u2019t say what was happening in 2014. I was there, and Israel had just killed 2,000 people, and the US was not even able to speak out against the killing of 500 children, and everyone said, \u201cIt\u2019s because of AIPAC; it\u2019s because of the Jewish lobby.\u201d I was talking to people in Jewish Voices for Peace [sic], so this was the language. And I understand it\u2019s offensive. It\u2019s like saying the Muslim lobby or the Christian lobby. I\u2019ve learned about all the conspiracy theories, so I acknowledge that. <\/p>\n

So, when this happened, I was blessed with the support of a number of Jewish scholars who came to my side and said, \u201cDon\u2019t shake, don\u2019t bend, don\u2019t crumble, don\u2019t crash. Welcome to the club. From now on, you will be accused of all sorts of things, but you need to understand that this is a way to distract you, to silence you\u2014but also to distract from what you are trying to do and say.\u201d <\/p>\n

And this lesson has stayed with me ever since, because today I know much more about the Holocaust. And again, the Holocaust didn\u2019t happen in the concentration camps only. These were the ultimate means used, but it started with the dehumanization of the Jews. In my country, the fascist government passed a law in 1938 that prohibited Jewish people from joining the majority of professions. Today, antisemitism is no longer in the minds of many, what it is\u2014meaning hatred against Semites, including Jewish people; violence against Jewish people because they are Jews. Today, everything you say about Israel can be antisemitic if it is too critical\u2014too [inaudible]\u2014and so this is why I keep calling the bluff.<\/p>\n

Katrina vanden Heuvel: <\/em><\/span> We\u2019ve been talking about institutions, the UN, the judiciary. Someone whose voice has been heard in new ways is the pope. I wonder how you assess the new Pope\u2019s language about peace, about other topics that are often not discussed in the public sphere.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> Personally, I was more naturally attuned with Pope Francis, whose clarity was immense. I like the fact that the pope has challenged the dominant vision that the power would like to pass as a civilizing mission. So this hope embodies another idea of the church. What I would like to see more, though, is that this is the perfect time to talk about Christ. Christ was someone who was able to speak truth to power. He was looking for what is just. He was always on the side of the most vulnerable, and this is something that should cross all the religions. There are many Jewish people, not just in Italy, around the world, they say, \u201cZionism\u2014political Zionism and Zionist ideology\u2014is corrupting the beauty of Judaism, which is the religion of the victims, the religion of the most vulnerable, and we have always been next to the marginalized. We cannot forget who we are.\u201d<\/p>\n

John Nichols: <\/em><\/span> It is clear that the United States and several other countries have a great disregard for the ICC, and that international law is under assault by some of the most powerful countries in the world. How do you confront that? What should our response be?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> International law is a tool to regulate conduct. This is what has allowed the West to preserve peace and stability, mostly for us. The people in other parts of the world have not seen much of it. But today we have reached a level of lawlessness that is unprecedented. I think that this is the beginning of the end for us, because if the laws that have protected us until now get eroded to the point of not having safeguards anymore, we will return to the law of might. We don\u2019t need to see more violence. We have already seen enough violence in Palestine, in Israel, in the rest of West Asia\u2014in the US! It\u2019s been a very painful period for US citizens. I\u2019m talking about ICE. Police violence is not new. But now, having vigilantes shooting at people just for protesting\u2014and then the vigilantes going and just apprehending people in the street because of the color of their skin\u2014this is outright racism. I mean, we have had this in Europe 100 years ago, and this is why I tell my US fellows, \u2018Keep on waking up.\u2019 This is why I gave the book I wrote this title, When the World Sleeps.<\/em> So for me, international law is a tool, a peaceful tool to justice. And today we are seeing this fight between lawlessness, which is the way to barbarism, or respect for the rule of law, which is the way to maintain peace and stability.<\/p>\n

Katrina vanden Heuvel: <\/em><\/span> The assault on civilians is something we\u2019ve never seen. And the Geneva Conventions\u2014all of these important, though flawed, post\u2013World War II designs have been under stress. So I\u2019m wondering if you see the need to reconstruct these institutions at some point, and is that part of your work going forward?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Francesca Albanese: <\/em><\/span> <\/strong> The majority of the European population, in fact, has expressed discontent for how European governments deal with Israel. They would like the end of trade and military transfers to Israel. And then there are workers who have been striking. There are people, even people who do not care about Palestine, but you know, they say, \u201cHow it\u2019s possible that there is such a high military expenditure in our country, and then we don\u2019t have the money to invest in schools, in preventative health, and even in curative health?\u201d There is a convergence of power in the hands of those we have already named. We need to be smarter\u2014as Martin Luther King used to say, \u201cIf those who hate wars had the same ability to organize than those who love wars, there will be no wars.\u201d And this is the thing: Now we need to organize. And how do we organize? Doing the right thing: ethical consumption, ethical investments, moving savings out of banks who invest in the arms industry. If everyone did the right thing\u2014everyone as they can, everyone as they know\u2014we will be done with it. We will be done with the plutocrats strangling our lives.<\/p>\n

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